Prop Plans:

AS Bipe
Designer: Andy2No
Designer Email: Andy2No at RCGroups
Specs: 8.0g AUW
Material Required: Depron
Downloads available:
Notes: Okay, here's the photos. I resisted the temptation to make too many free flight tests, so it's still in one piece.

The various micro connectors hanging out of or taped to the right side go to the 3 Ohm 6x12mm pager motor (with direct drive PicooZ tail rotor), the 50 mAh Fullriver Lipo and the power and motor connectors of the Rx (currently not fully functional).

Free flight stability is pretty good over about 12 feet - I don't have much more room than that. I could make it climb, or probably loop again, just by moving the lipo back a touch... I just tried it again and got a good stall turn out of it so that seems fine.

The all up weight is about 8.0g +/- 0.1g - I only have 0.1g accuracy letter scales so I can't be more exact. I could get rid of quite a lot of paper masking tape once I'm finished.

The 3 Ohm pager motor is more than able to cope with the weight and drag, though I'm not so sure the battery is able to cope with the motor. I haven't measured the static current draw yet.

The flying speed is definitely a lot slower than it was without the second wing.


Aantoin - profile 1
Designer: aantoin
Designer Email: aantoin at RCGroups
Specs: Unknown
Material Required: 2mm Depron
Downloads available:
Notes: All that I kept (of the original plane) was the Rx, actuator, main wing, tail wing, and rudder.

I put in my PiccoZ Lipo put it center under the main wing. The tractor part of this was the tougher part since I did not want to use glue, so I just used my exacto knife and made a notch where everything lined up. I had to also trim the prop for gear (motor pinion) clearance.

I have been able to fly around in my living room doing figure 8's. My living room is roughly 10ft by 12ft.

I have done some evening flying and have to say on a dead clam evening it flys great even if there is a slight breeze....... Actually I prefer flying it in a slight breeze.

Aero Mono
Designer: epicdoom
Designer Email: epicdoom at RCGroups
Specs: Unknown
Material Required: AS electrics, CF
Downloads available:
Notes: Got around to completing the Aero Mono today. WOW what a flyer under full power it would allmost hang on the prop turns were good in spite of the stock ACT had to plan ahead a nano second Tho. Nice slow flight I had one and only one chash into a lamp and wouldn't you know it Broken wire on the motor unrepairable.

Aero Slower v3.0
Designer: del
Designer Email: del at RCGroups
Specs: 11inch WS, 3.4g AUW
Material Required: Balsa, film covering
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Notes: The wing span is a bit over 11 inches, the wing area is a bit over 40 sq in, and the all-up weight is around 3.4 grams. We'll see if the 25% in wing area is enough to slow it down some.
The biggest change from V2 was to replace the stock AS actuator with a 60 Ohm coil and magnets from Michael (Indoor Flyer). Initial tests seem to show that the result will be a model that turns much better.

Aerosoar bash
Designer: mrfliboy
Designer Email: mrfliboy at RCGroups
Specs: Unknown
Material Required: Seran Wrap
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Notes: Covering is good old saran wrap. I'm planning on getting some 30ma for it. Right now its quick but manageable. Going to try and increase the chord a little and get it to hopefully slow down. I'm averaging about 8 mins of flytime at 3/4 throttle. Hoping to get it to fly at 1/2 throttle or less and at awalking pace.

CF Micro
Designer: Pouncer
Designer Email: Pouncer at RCGroups
Specs: Unknown
Material Required: AS electrics, CF, grocery bag covering
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Notes: Flying surfaces are carbon fiber frame (0.5 mm dia), covered with grocery bag plastic (the really flimsy ones)
Balsa body, rewound the actuator with 0.05 mm wire. Made yet another set of prop blades.

CF Micro 2
Designer: Neto Guima
Designer Email: Neto Guima at RCGroups
Specs: 4.3g AUW
Material Required: AS electrics, CF, balsa
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Notes: The AUW is just 4 grams, i used CF and tissue for the wing, the stab. was made by balsa because my cf its over, i broke it all trying to make them. The tracktor conf. was easy to do, just cut some parts. with a WD red can and a litlle CA The actuator is home made with ~20 ? awg43 The fligh is a litlle more faster than the stock AS, and i'm having problems with left turns wich it just spin down.

Cessna
Designer: micromad
Designer Email: micromad at RCGroups
Specs: 1.2g less Rx and battery
Material Required: Depron
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Notes: This is my 8 inch cessna, weight of airframe with motor and prop is 1.2 grams.

Culver Cadet
Designer: del
Designer Email: del at RCGroups
Specs: 12 inch WS, 3.8g AUW
Material Required: Balsa, tissue
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Notes: I've always loved the Culver Cadet, and, I had some AS parts.... The wing span is around 12 inches, The motor, gear drive, and prop are stock AS. The rudder actuator is my first attempt at using MIchael's 150 Ohm coil and magnets...(www.indoorflyer.co.uk) The model came in at 3.8 grams, with a 10mAh Full River cell, which means that it's gonna be fast, given the small wing area. But, I hope you'll agree, it looks nice...

Epicdoom2
Designer: epicdoom
Designer Email: epicdoom at RCGroups
Specs: 1.3g AUW
Material Required: 2mm Depron, .8mm CF, plastic wrap
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Notes: Decided to build another plane for the AS gear used 2mm depron for framing and clear plastic wrap for covering .8mm CF fuse. Homemade Act. 50 ohm 4mm ID 2 2mm x 1mm N50 magnets 0.2g Homemade litz wire connected to coil by PCB total weight so far with Act. installed 1.3g Test glides were very smooth and long. Should make a nice flyer.

Farman
Designer: Woodbutcher
Designer Email: Woodbutcher at RCGroups
Specs: Unknown
Material Required: Unknown
Downloads available:
Notes: O.K. - here are the pics of the Farman as it is right now. Still have the front cowling & wing struts to do, and have to paint the rudder, but this is how it currently looks. Sorry for the photos being a little blurry in places, but I'm still trying to get to grips properly with the camera's macro mode.

I've done a couple of test glides in the hall , and it seems to fly beautifully - leastways in a straight line. Power-on flights in the lounge seem to indicate that it will gain altitude, but not at any great speed. Rudder control is very positive. The pull-pull cables are coupled to a Plantraco Micro-Act mounted vertically within the fuselage. This enabled me to bring the actuator weight forward almost to the CG position. I think I gained on the deal, as I didn't have to have nose weight counterbalancing the usual rudder-mounted actuator.

Fike E
Designer: Megabyte-2
Designer Email: Megabyte-2 at RCGroups
Specs: 6 inch wingspan, 2.83g AUW
Material Required: 2mm Depron, produce bag
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Notes: I finally did my first "skinned" model using 2mm depron and produce bag.
This is the Fike E ( as best as I could make from 2 pics I found). They claimed it very stable even with the flat wing. Built with a wingspan od 6"x2".
The airframe weight is .81gm. The green blob is 2gm of modeling clay to simulate the gear.
Glide test was very good. A little faster than I had expected. Wingloading is estimated at .25gm sq/in. It can still lose some weight on the fuse once the gear position is found. Thought the produce bag would shrink, well....it doesnt. Lesson learned, but it is fairly easy to work with even for a beginner. Just make it as taunt as you can when gluing since it wont be any better later. I figure the depron wing "framing" is a little wider than needed, but being my first I was being cautious.

I'm going to complete this one just for experience's sake and future builds. Hopefully get a vid to post.

There are a couple of pics as the gear is made and going into the Fike E. The first pic is the coil and new 3x1mm magnet 35ohms coil ID is 5mm(close fit). Weighs .08gm. The second photo I had to include. Its all mounted and I tested it with just a lipo and its has great throw. Big rudder area too. Maybe to big but thats what the pics showed. I can alway limit the travel if needed.The clear celo hinges are glued on for the test.

Stock AS motor and prop from a Micro Mosquito(small prop). Trimmed the charge tab from the Rx and reversed the motor wires for DD. Thrust test was 1.60gm. Decided I could save some weight if there were no wires from the Rx to the lipo. As you can see it just plugs into the Rx. Plug & Rx has a red dot for proper connecting. I fixed the bent pin. Didn't see it till the photo! Plan to use a small peice of double sided tape(clear) to stick the battery to the plane after its plugged in. Easy enough to remove then unplug if the tape is about 1/4" sq.

Specs to date:
Thrust 1.60gm
30ma lipo 1.05gm
Rx, motor & prop .84gm
Airframe & Actuator .94gm
AUW 2.83gm
Wing loading .23gm sq/in


Flying Flea
Designer: Woodbutcher
Designer Email: Woodbutcher at RCGroups
Specs: 4g AUW
Material Required: .5 and 2mm Depron
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Notes: This is taken from the Fiddlers Green plan for the Flying Flea. As it's a tandem wing aircraft, it flies slower than the Renard, but is still not a patch on some of the super-light planes shown in this thread. Wings are 0.5 Depron, fuselage 2mm Depron, AUW 4 gr. exactly.

Main wing is 8.5" x 2", aft wing is 5.5" x 2". Allow a bit for the tapered wingtips and I figure it's about 25 sq. ins. It's a swine to trim - needs washout on both wings, but once you get it right it's very stable. I can fly it in our 12 x 18 lounge, but prefer not to as it has a habit of dipping down behind the kitchen partition & being picked on by the cat .... . Turbulence from the stove, maybe?

Folding Aero-Soarer
Designer: Electronick
Designer Email: Electronick at RCGroups
Specs: .7g additional AUW
Material Required: Neodymium magnets, sticky tape
Downloads available:
Notes: I made this Aero-Soarer able to fold down its wings and tail to promote ease of storage and transport. It uses small Neodymium magnets to secure extension and the hinge points are made with a sticky tape strip. The total weight gain is 0.7 grams, too much but still flyable. I can use even smaller magnets but they were tricky to secure effectively. I used hot glue to adhere the magnets first to foam strips then glued them to the surfaces. When held upright the plane unfolds automatically, the magnets are quite powerful. All it needs is a smaller carrying case.

Glider
Designer: Andy2No
Designer Email: Andy2No at RCGroups
Specs: 11g AUW
Material Required: Depron, bamboo
Downloads available:
Notes: I finally took photos of my failed electric glider prototype.

I kept trying it again at the start of each "scale" slot at the fly-in. Towards the end, I bent in some more dihedral and it made a few yards, with one fairly nice unintentional turn into the gym wall that I was skulking near, impacting a few feet above the ground. That was my most successful flight, I think.

I need to increase stability by building in some more dihedral. I'm going to try ribs in the wing tips so they have more curve to the aerofoil. There's a depron plate attached to the main fuselage member (a foot long bamboo skewer) with an aerofoil curve. The wing is CA'd onto that to give it the shape but it curves more there than at the wing tips at the moment. That gives some anhedral (just learned that word today ) to the main wing section, which seems to be a problem.

Unfortunately, increasing the curve at the tips will increase the drag on them too, and that might reduce the stability too much. If necessary, I could add very short struts to prop up the wing a bit for more dihedral.

I've decided the prop needs to be further forward too. A plane with low lateral stability and a pusher prop behind the CG, is fine if you have elevator and aileron controls to keep it balanced, but for this one to fly straight I think the prop needs to be a little infront of the CG. Effectively, it will be acting like a tractor prop, pulling the plane along.

The really ugly mess of masking tape on the nose was from my last ditch attempts at getting the CG and trim right. Towards the end, I taped my frequency peg ticket to the front for a bit more weight, and bent it to straighten out the flight.

The main problem with it was going into a flat spin to one side, then tip stalling and hitting the floor.

If I get it to fly nicely, the next problem will be all those bright lights flooding the receiver.

Graham Smith 1
Designer: Graham Smith
Designer Email: None
Specs: 10.5 inch WS, 3g AUW
Material Required: CF, OS Film
Downloads available:
Notes: Here is my new plane using Aero Soarer equipment. Its 10.5” span 3.25” chord and weighs a touch over 3 grams, and has a 20mAh cell.

If I remove the charging tab, it will be under 3 grams. The plane is covered in O.S. film. I have trimmed away some of the plastic from the actuator and motor mounting to save weight.

When I reversed the prop. I cut a step in the back so that it keyed into the large gear thus eliminating any need for glue, I also cut out four spokes in the largest gear to save more weight. I have bent the battery tabs back on themselves, and taped them down, so that they form a tube for the male plug to connect into, so there’s no need to solder any leads to them. I will glue the tabs down eventually as this seems to work quite well. The actuator has been mounted onto the rear wing post, the bronze wire horn is angled forward so that the pull-pull lines passes through the pivot line. I covered the fin and rudder in one piece of mylar so that I didn’t have to hinge it afterwards.

Flew it during the weekend in a 30’ wide polytunnel which has aircraft stored in it. It took off in a foot or so and briskly climbed away, throttling back it circled sedately around, manoeuvering it to dodge the stored aircraft. It tends to fly naturally in left hand circles because the mylar fin/rudder side covering wants to pull the rudder over to the left, which means the plane does wider right hand turns, than left. I will change the hinging to provide better rudder centering for the next flight session. I was pretty pleased with the rudder response though, after what I had read about turning problems folks have been having.

Graham Smith 2
Designer: Graham Smith
Designer Email: None
Specs: 4g AUW
Material Required: CF, wall foam
Downloads available:
Notes: As a diversion from all this talk of Reynolds numbers and formulae, here is my latest plane using two Aero Soarer wings and an A.S. tailplane. The fin, rudder and fuselage is from beaded wall foam and a 1mm carbon rod has been used for the rear fuselage. Total weight is 4 grams. its roughly the same wing area as my monoplane, but it’s one gram heavier.

Homeboy
Designer: micro_builder
Designer Email: Micro_Builder at RCGroups
Specs: 7.5 inch WS, 3.7g AUW
Material Required: Depron, CF
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Notes: The homeboy has a 7.5" wing and weighs 3.7 grams. it flys pretty well, but i need to work on the rudder as it doesnt have enough deflection to steer well enough. its slower than a stock AS i believe.

Martins Mono
Designer: MicroTex
Designer Email: None
Specs: Unknown
Material Required: CF, film
Downloads available:
Notes: Well... you guys said it might be too heavy, soooo I listened. Out with the stick and tissue and in with a carbon fiber Martins Mono. (actually I left the stick and tissue one sitting on the bed, and she got crushed. ) The new Mono is built directly off Martins plans.(http://mnewell.rchomepage.com/Planes/Mono/Mono.html) I changed the rudder slightly as I didn't like the look of the triangle rudder. Tons of great info on his site. She needs a little more room to fly than my living room allows, I did manage about three circuits before the wall jumped in the way.

Micro Cootie
Designer: busta1
Designer Email: busta1 at RCGroups
Specs: 5.4g AUW
Material Required: CF, Depron
Downloads available:
Notes: Here's my micro cootie , uses a 50mh cell and AUW is 5.4grms, very heavy but it does fly though I mite try the picooZ motor and prop.

Microbuilder2
Designer: micro_builder
Designer Email: Micro_Builder at RCGroups
Specs: 12 inch WS, 4.9g AUW
Material Required: CF, tissue
Downloads available:
Notes: Not sure what to call this one exactly, something of an unusual bird with the motor mounted a quarter way in the LE of the wing. reason i went that route is i dont have a spare AS, and i didnt want to try converting the prop/gearbox to a tractor configuration till i had a spare on hand...just in case.

the horizontal stabilizer is mounted on two CF rods to adjust its incidence, the main wing is mounted directly to the tail booms. the IR sensor is right out in front and seems to get a really good reception, something i've had problems with in the past.

main wing is 12x3 inches, tail is 6x3, normal tissue paper covering, and an AUW of 4.9 grams (that tissue is a major weight killer). seems to have pleanty of thrust to stay airborn, but turns are something of a problem - it seems to turn left just fine, but wont pull out of a left turn very easily, nor will it turn right.

Mustang
Designer: micro_builder
Designer Email: Micro_Builder at RCGroups
Specs: Unknown
Material Required: Depron
Downloads available:
Notes: the stang was meant for the AS's equipment actually, so technically we're still on subject. the picture was taken before i installed the electronics, and shortly after i installed the electronics, it had a little accident - i sat on it i'm hoping it'll be repairable. its been one of those days! SO, to make up for the crushing of the stang.

Nieuport 11
Designer: Pouncer
Designer Email: Pouncer at RCGroups
Specs: 18 cm WS, 3.8g AUW
Material Required: .6mm Depron, .4mm ply
Downloads available:
Notes: I threw together (this plane) from a 3 plan view in order to learn the technique of working with Epilots wonderful Ifoam that is, very thin Depron, similar to Durobatics but at a quarter the cost.

However seeing that the airframe came at 1 gram, that's with struts and landing gear I quickly slapped the guts from an AeroSoarer on and with a Plantraco LP30 the AUW is 3.8 grams!

PWS 17
Designer: Woodbutcher
Designer Email: Woodbutcher at RCGroups
Specs: 9 inch WS, 6g AUW
Material Required: Wings 0.5mm Depron, tail group 0.8mm Depron, fuselage stick & tissue + blue foam
Downloads available:
Notes: PWS 4 spans 9" and weighs 6 gr. Wings 0.5mm Depron, tail group 0.8mm Depron, fuselage stick & tissue + blue foam for turtledeck & nose.
Test glides in the back yard look really promising, but can't fly out there due to trees.

Pouncer T-Tail
Designer: Pouncer
Designer Email: Pouncer at RCGroups
Specs: Unknown
Material Required: AS electrics
Downloads available:
Notes: Starting from the prop, I reversed the set-up. I had to add some filling between prop and gear, I did this by splitting a wooden dowel in half (lenght wise), sanding a groove for the axle and position it along side the half-pipe on the gear. I secured it it place with a small length of shrink tube and a few drops of CA. I then glued the prop in place (threaded both prop and gear on axle, dabbed a little CA on with a needle and quickly removed the axle before it became stuck. Reinforced the joint with more CA)

Unfortunately a little CA got inside and the prop wouldn't spin freely on the axle. I didn't have a suitable reamer, or drill bit. After some tribulation I found that a needle covered in dried CA could be used as a primitive needle file and I got the inside cleaned out.

The motor was then rewired to reverse polarity.

The receiver is lightened by clipping off the charging tab (with sharp scissors) and the micro connector is now soldered directly to the PCB, a weight saving of probably several hundreth's of a mg

Not seen on the pic is the (stock) actuator, no mods but the rudder is much enlargened (easier to cut down than add to) and is hinged at an angle to give a little nose up when engaged.

After a few short flights it looks promising, the tractor config is much more forgiving and I was able to get a stable high alfa with CG at 50% and conventional behaviour at 25%.
The rudder is a little fierce! Under the right circumstance it will do a wing-over inside a cubic foot..

Too bad I have to cut my testing short as a prop blade is coming loose, I haven't figured out a way to reinforce the hub.

Ralph Bradley Cootie
Designer: charlelombos
Designer Email: charlelombos at RCGroups
Specs: 37cmx22cm wingspan, 9g AUW
Material Required: AS electrics,fullriver 50mah,orange ss motor,gws 2508 prop, jap paper covering
Downloads available:
Notes: Heres one I made a couple of months ago. It didnt work initially because the wing was too small and didn't have enough slack(dont know the terminology)on the wing. today, I decided to make another wing made of 1mm cf split in half. wingspan is 37cm x 22cm(chord). covering is jap paper. the motor is an orange ss with gws 2508 prop(direct drive) at 10deg down from horizontal. the wing is about 15deg up from horizontal. lipo is a full river 50mah.

Renard R-17
Designer: Woodbutcher
Designer Email: Woodbutcher at RCGroups
Specs: 10 inch WS, 4.5g AUW
Material Required: fuselage is 2mm, Wings 0.5mm and tail group 0.8mm
Downloads available:
Notes: Built from a Walt Mooney Pistachio plan. Wing is 0.5mm Depron - weighs 0.35gr measuring 8" x 1.75" Whole plane weighs 3.7 gr. LiPo conversion on the way, but flies fine with the cap. Flying speed is a bit slower than the original AeroSoarer - probably due to the greater undercamber on the wing.

Slow Stick
Designer: MicroTex
Designer Email: MicroTex at RCGroups
Specs: 9.5 inch WS
Material Required: Balsa and Tissue
Downloads available:
Notes: Here is my first attempt at an AS hack. My main problem is it doesn't climb well. It will only maintain level flight at the highest throttle step, maybe a slight climb if I'm lucky. I have seen some of the other posts that state their planes will climb on the lowest throttle. Thats seems impossible with the thrust that mine is putting out, can hardly be felt on low throttle. Maybe I got a bad one. Even on my stock AS with a 50Mah lipo it would barely climb on high, and any of the low settings were useless. I know the 50 Mah is a little heavy, but surely it shouldn't make that big of a difference? I even tried putting in a picco z tail motor and that didn't help!

I don't have a scale to weigh the plane, but some of you guru's should have a pretty good idea if it is too heavy with a description and pics.

This was my first shot at stick and tissue, so be nice.LOL!!
Wingspan: 9 1/2" x 2 3/4"
Length:9"
main fuse: 1/8x1/8 balsa
wing and tail: 1/16x1/16 balsa covered with domestic tissue from Daredesign
Rudder: 1/16 balsa.
batt: 50Mah full river from picco z
Motor: Picco z tail motor
Landing gear: .5mm carbon rod legs with a 1mm axle and 2mm depron wheels

I haven't shrunk the tissue yet because I am scared it will warp the wing.

Sorta Cub
Designer: RCBilly
Designer Email: RCBilly at RCGroups
Specs: under 4g AUW
Material Required: AS electrics, Z prop
Downloads available:
Notes: This is actually a spare parts plane. Uses the AS wing, stab and radio gear and a Picco Z tail rotor and motor. The little plane uses a 30mah lipo and weighs just under 4.0 grams AUW. It flys well and is a little faster and more responsive than the stock AS. I originally used the AS geared motor which flew ok but I broke a wire off right at the motor. The DD PZ motor and prop was handy so I stuck it on and it seems to have more power than the stock AS gear. It will climb on full throttle and responds well to the stock actuator and 0.5mm Kenway foam rudder. Anyway, I think it has more of a cute model plane factor now and is still a micro LRF

Sorta Cub 2
Designer: Megabyte-2
Designer Email: Megabyte-2 at RCGroups
Specs: 2.85g AUW
Material Required: AS electrics, Z prop
Downloads available:
Notes: Thought I'd post my first AS hack after it was finished and flying. The first AS motor wouldn't keep the AS level. Just a constant decent.
The 2nd AS flew much better and the 3rd is a keeper. Its staying stock! I use the 2nd motor in the little 6"er. I went to Billy Stiltners Air plane calculator and it was very close to its air speed. I did make a couple of changes. I managed to get a little under camber in the wing and give it 3* AoA.Big help. It ended up AUW of 2.85gm. Finish by sharpie and water decals.

SquareAS
Designer: micro_builder
Designer Email: Micro_Builder at RCGroups
Specs: 2.9g AUW
Material Required: CF, balsa, mylar
Downloads available:
Notes: Here is a little square5.5 I did for the AS's electronics. I opted out the AS's gearbox for a more conventional one until I can figure out a way to change the stock gearbox around.
It consists of the AS RX and slightly modified AS actuator, 30mah cell, Billys GBU6010, mylar covering, 1/32nd - 1/16th balsa construction. Boy is she slow!